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--- I am still in shock and did not sleep last night. Social media is filled with tributes from across the world of people sharing how Charlie impacted their lives. Charlie literally knew thousands of great people personally. What could I possibly add to their moving remarks. Nothing. I feel at a total loss. But for the sake of posterity, with hopes the younger generation will be inspired to rise up and follow Charlie's example, I would like to humbly add my inadequate words to the chorus of those honoring of Charlie Kirk. Nearly a dozen years ago, February 22, 2014, Washington's Birthday, I was the advertised main speaker at an event in Robinson, Illinois, about a 2½ hours drive east of where we were living in St. Louis, Missouri. I remember entering the civic center auditorium, which held several hundred people. A nice turnout. A young “warm up” speaker was addressing the crowd before me. As usual, I opened my laptop to review my notes before my talk, but I could not concentrate. That young speaker was so captivating I had to pay attention. He talked about free market, capitalism, conservative values, and faith. He explained that a businessman, Bill Montgomery, asked him to take a year off before going to college to speak around the country. That young speaker was Charlie Kirk. A few years later, we were together on a pheasant hunt hosted by our mutual friend, Foster Friess, a conservative billionaire. My wife, Susie, and I had met him during my run for Congress in 2000. For some 15 years, Foster included me, and later my son Michael, as part of an annual pheasant hunt at Paul Nelson Farms in South Dakota. Foster loved encouraging young people. In the rustic lodge around the fireplace, two dozen or so influential leaders would discuss the serious issues facing the world and their efforts to preserve America’s freedoms. Foster would always ask me give a history talk. It was at one of these trips that Foster included Charlie Kirk. Charlie retold how he ran into Foster at a political event and walked with him up a few flights of stairs, giving his two-minute pitch about engaging young people. In classic Foster style, he turned and said to Charlie, I like your idea, contact my office and my assistant will send you a check. That was some of the initial seed money which helped propel Turning Point USA’s exponential growth. Charlie later had Turning Point do a short documentary on Foster & Lynn Friess and their amazing story, beginning with their marriage shortly his military service, to becoming an investment genius. Foster shared how Colin Hanna explained the Gospel to him in a way he could understand, asking Jesus be his “Chairman of the Board.”
I often crossed paths with Charlie on the speaking circuit.
Charlie interviewed me numerous times, and invited me to speak at several of his events. Charlie’s pastor was Rob McCoy of Godspeak Calvary Chapel, who had also served as mayor of Thousand Oaks, California.
Rob said that when he met Charlie, he said, I never met anyone like you - a conservative young person! To which Charlie replied to Rob, I never met anyone like you - a pastor who was also a mayor! Rob and I crisscrossed the country for years speaking at American Renewal Events sponsored by David & Cindy Lane. These were powerful meetings with an impressive lineup of some of the nation's most motivating patriotic Christian speakers. In January of 2020, Pastor Rob McCoy asked me to join him and Charlie, speaking at his church on a Sunday morning.
On this particular trip, my flight landed in Las Vegas, but my connecting flight was canceled. With no other flights available, and feeling compelled to be at the church service, I tried renting a car but had to wait for someone to return one. Finally at midnight Saturday night, I got a car and drove all night across the Mojave Desert. I still remember being the only car on highway that dark night and seeing a million stars overhead. I pulled over, slept an hour and arrived at the church just in time for service. I met Erika who was there, as they had just gotten engaged – a strikingly beautiful former Miss Arizona. The church service seemed to have a providential feel to it, with Charlie, Rob and me speaking to the congregation.
Foster Friess died, May 27, 2021. At the memorial service, Tucker Carlson and others gave a moving tribute. Afterwards, my son and I spent time with Charlie, encouraging each other to champion faith and freedom.
We talked history for two hours while in the car together driving through the Wyoming mountains, avoiding the moose crossing the highway around Jackson Hole.
I remembered Charlie was particularly thrilled that he stumped me on a history question. The discussion turned toward certain types of adventurous sports. Charlie responded that he did not do any of those – that too many people had invested too much in him for him to do something risky and get injured. Rob performed Charlie and Erika’s wedding May of 2021. I never saw Charlie light up more than when he talked about Erika. He proudly showed us their wedding pictures, with her in a beautiful wedding dress with the Arizona landscape behind them.
He bragged about how so totally blessed he was to have her as his wife! She truly was the highlight of his life! Rob’s son, Mikey, was Charlie’s exceptionally capable right-hand man, and was a very key part in Charlie’s national effectiveness. Pastor Rob McCoy invited my wife and I to move to Phoenix to help Charlie start Turning Point Faith, but we had just moved to Florida to be near family members and so passed on the opportunity.
Sometimes I wonder what it would have been like had we moved. In 2022, Rob invited me to fly out to Phoenix and have dinner with Charlie, to discuss starting Turning Point Academy, now Turning Point Education. I still have the texts on my phone: text May 31, 2022 Charlie: Please call me Bill: I just finished an interview so I am available now – I will try calling you Charlie: (attached article “TPUSA launches first Turning Point Academy – schools promoting traditional values planned across the nation”) You are going to play a major role in this! Bill: Awesome.
At our dinner, I distinctly remember overhearing Rob ask what Charlie what his plans were for the weekend. Charlie responded that he was taking the weekend to fast and pray because he needed to get God’s direction on some important decisions. Wow. I was so impressed by Charlie’s genuine private prayer life. text June 22, 2022 Charlie: Thank you so much for flying out Bill! I loved spending time with you. Very excited what we will be doing together. God bless you! Bill: I just spoke with my wife, Susie, and she is excited about us helping you too.
My wife and I agreed, and it has been a joy working with the absolutely first class Turning Point Education team of Hutz Hertzberg, Jennifer Burns, Francine Quintero, Scot Polender and Destiny Enos. One of the highlights was producing a weekly educational video, “How We Got Here.” Being a guest on Charlie's program was always a highlight. His mind worked so fast!
I know Charlie texted literally thousands people, but I picked out some of the ones we exchanged. text June 14, 2022 Bill: Great six-minute talk! (attached article “Harvard Student Condemns Anti-Americanism in Senior Speech") Charlie: Yes!
text June 16, 2022 Charlie: Please send (the attached TPUSA Pastors Summit flyer) to all pastors that you know. Bill: Amen!!! Charlie: (texted link to his podcast referencing me in his podcast “The Fifth Column Invading America” The Charlie Kirk Show) Bill: Brilliant! Excellent! You are the best!! Charlie: I can’t wait to see you next week
Over the years, I have been honored to have participated in Turning Point USA and Turning Point Faith events. Charlie asked me to join him for a Freedom Night. text July 7, 2022 Bill: (attached link “New DeSantis education standards correct popular misconception about church state separation”) I helped with this just a little. Charlie: I am glad you did. Thank you. Can you join us August 3 for event in Arizona? Bill: Yes. - The Supreme Court cited my book America’s God and Country in its (good) decision regarding separation of church and state (at end of the first paragraph on the top of the decision’s page 6) Charlie: Wow! Remarkable!
text August 3, 2022 Charlie: Hi Bill – See you soon. I will interview you for 45 mins then we will take questions. Lots of fun Bill: Super – I prepared a PowerPoint on the history of education just in case you wanted it Charlie: Great – let’s prepare that before – can you get that to Will asap. Bill: OK
My son and I arrived at Dream City Church in Phoenix, founded by Pastor Tommy Barnett, and pastored by his son Luke Barnett. We weren’t quite sure what to expect when we arrived, and were absolutely shocked when we walked into the auditorium and saw it packed with thousands. There were two chairs on the platform, as Charlie often had. I turned to Charlie and asked who else was speaking that night. He replied “They are all here for you!” That was nice of him to say that, but I knew everyone was there because Charlie promoted the event. It was an absolutely amazing evening with Q&A before the crowd. text August 4, 2022 Bill: Thanks for the wonderful evening at Dream City! You are doing an amazing work.
Charlie: Thank you so much my friend. You were terrific. How was the response after?
Bill: Big crowd at the back table – sold out of lots of books. God bless you!
Charlie: So blessed to hear that.
My son and I participated in several events at that wonderful church since. Charlie began to not just speak on college campuses, but also in churches. He was encouraged by great leaders such as Rob McCoy, Jack Hibbs, Frank Turek, Kirk Cameron, Jurgen Matthesius, Luke Barnett, Phil Hotsenpiller, John Amanchukwu, Eric Metaxas, Jentezen Franklin, Rick Green, Lance Wallnau, Seth Gruber, and many others. I added a small part in networking him with respected leaders, such as Andrew Wommack at Charis Bible College, Pastor Steve Riggle of Grace International, Rob Pazienza at Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church, Robert Schuller, Paul Blair, Jason Rapert of National Association of Christian Lawmakers, and numerous others. text June 25, 2022 Bill: I had a good talk with Rick Scarborough.
Charlie: Thank you very much Bill.
text June 26, 2022 Charlie: (attached podcast link “One of the most enjoyable conversations I’ve ever had with historian Bill Federer” The Charlie Kirk Show)
Bill: You are amazing! PS. Rick Scarborough mentioned how impressed he was by your humble attitude.
Charlie: Thank you very much, Bill. God bless you.
text July 6, 2022 Bill: I am still in Alaska – I spoke at Anchorage Baptist Temple.
Charlie: That is Jerry Prevo’s Church.
Bill: Anchorage Mayor Dave Bronson flew my son Mike and me out to a glacier lake. Assistant Pastor Brian Mentzer hosted us – I am planting seeds for you.
Charlie: Thank you!!!
text July 7, 2022 Bill: Brian Mentzer may want you to share (at least by Skype) at a Wednesday night series beginning in September geared toward getting church members engaged.
Charlie: I would be honored if I can make it work with schedule.
In preparing for his debates, he would sometimes seek my insight, as well as that of people like Blake Neff, Frank Turek, Alex McFarland, David Barton, and others.
text July 6, 2022 Charlie: Help me out here Bill. As President in 1797, John Adams – another founder – signed an international treaty stating that “the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.”
Bill: This is my post explaining "Treaty of Tripoli and the Confusion about it explained in four points – American Minute with Bill Federer"
Charlie: OK
text July 7, 2022 Charlie: (attached link “Separation of Church and State is a ‘fabrication’ says far right activist Charlie Kirk: They should be mixed together.” Can you help me respond to the critics here? Some quoted, and historical info that shows the founders had indeed helped launched religious services in government, etc.
Bill: (attached link “Religious Freedom! Who influenced Jefferson’s views on Separation of Church & State – American Minute with Bill Federer”)
Bill: (attached link “Wall of Separation – a phrase nowhere to be found in the Constitution-Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart – American Minute with Bill Federer”)
Bill: (attached link “Freedom of Conscience: Rhode Island founder Roger Williams’ Wall of Separation as understood – American Minute with Bill Federer”)
Bill: (attached link “Jefferson on Government Censorship, Coercion, and Molesting citizens for their Religious opinions – Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom – American Minute with Bill Federer”)
Bill: (attached link “Congress approved First Amendment same week it called for a Day of Thanksgiving to Almighty God – American Minute with Bill Federer”)
Bill: (attached link “Judicial Activism: Why Justices should NOT usurp power and make laws – American Minute with Bill Federer”) I am happy to do interviews with you explaining all of this if you like.
Bill: (attached link “Maryland’s Christian Founding & What happened since? – American Minute with Bill Federer”) Here is another that tracks the change.
text August 30, 2022 Bill: CONGRATULATIONS!!! We are excited for you having a baby girl!!! God’s blessings are upon you!!!
Charlie: Thank you!!!
text September 9, 2022 Charlie: What is the tyrant's reason for wanting crime to go up and not care about it?
Bill: (Attached link Plato on How Democracies Collapse: "The manner of life is that of democrats ... Every man does what is right in his own eyes" - American Minute with Bill Federer)
Charlie: Very good Bill.
text September 13, 2022 Charlie: Do you have some unique quotes or examples of political purges?
Bill: (attached article “National SOCIALIST workers Party: Socialized medicine, gun confiscation, and Bonhoeffer’s courage – American Minute with Bill Federer”)
Bill: (attached article “CRT in Reverse? Arnold Toynbee described Ottoman Empire purges – American Minute with Bill Federer”)
text October 29, 2022 Bill: Silence Equals Consent-The Sin Of Omission - Calvary Chapel Chino Hills
Charlie: Love it.
text October 29, 2022 Charlie: Hey Bill can you help me build the argument that democracy is unsustainable.
Bill: The word “democracy” has two general meanings - one is a “popular” government where the population is involved in ruling itself. This meaning came into wide usage with FDR contrasting America with the National Socialist Workers Party (NAZI); and Truman contrasting America with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (U.S.S.R.) The second meaning of the word democracy is an actual form of government, such as in Athens. “Demos” means “people” and “cracy” means “rule.” This only worked on a very small scale, such as a city-state, as every citizen had to be physically present at every meeting every day to talk about every issue. Any larger than this it broke down. If someone was not present at the meeting they would have had to rely on messengers who could twist what information was talked about. This would effectively make those who relay the information as the true rulers.
Bill: (attached article "Fisher Ames "A democracy is a volcano which conceals the fiery materials of its own destruction" - American Minute with Bill Federer)
Bill: (attached article Montesquieu's 3 Types of Governments: Republics; Monarchs; and Despots who rule by Mandates & Executive Orders - American Minute with Bill Federer)
text November 4, 2022 Bill: Did my democracy posts help? Would you like me to clarify any of it?
Charlie: Yes!
February 15, 2023 Bill: Charlie - blessings to you & Erica! I got your email and would be glad to speak for you in May at a pastors summit. Let me know who to follow up with for details. God bless you.
Charlie: Thank You!
May 21, 2023 Bill: I spoke at an event with Lance Wallnau, Mario Murillo and Floyd Brown in Ocala, FL. He wants to plan more events and have you involved! Would you be open to that? If so I can forward you his contact info.
Charlie: Sure
text April 11, 2023 Bill: Ben Greenfield - Life on Instagram: "Historian Bill Federer of the fantastic newsletter at AmericanMinute.com writes ...
Charlie: Keep up the great work bill! God bless you greatly for your faithfulness.
text June 6, 2023 Bill: Charlie - thank you for having me on your show. You are doing a great work! Blake is brilliant! Also it was so good seeing Erika! You are blessed!!!
Charlie: Thank you so much! What a great time bill.
text July 31, 2023 Charlie: (attached article "High school boys are trending conservative") Turning Point USA has more high school chapters than college chapters. We have been pouring investment into high schools for a few years. Now the data shows our focus is paying off. This is huge.
Bill: Praise God! You are a man with a tremendous vision! God is with you!
text August 20, 2023 Charlie: Thank you bill. Keep up the incredible work
text September 15, 2023 Charlie: (attached article "Charlie Kirk Tells Pastors TPUSA Faith’s No. 1 Mission: ‘Excommunicate Wokeism From the American Church as Quickly as Possible’")
Bill: God is using you & Erika in powerful way! The Spirit of the Lord is upon you and within you for such a time as this!!!
text September 19, 2023 Bill: Charlie - I spoke at Lee Beaman’s house yesterday and he said great things about you!!!
Charlie: He's the best!
text November 27, 2023 Charlie: Please share (attached article "Rewind: The Origins of Thanksgiving with Bill Federer)
Bill: Thumbs up
text April 24, 2024 Bill: I published a book challenging pastors and church members to be involved reforming society, titled Silence Equals Consent - the sin of omission, which I dedicated to Pastor Rob McCoy.
text May 31, 2024 Bill: Charlie - I was on Kevin Freeman’s Economic War Room and spent time with Lt. Col. Tommy Walker USMC (ret) the new president of Center for Security Policy.
Charlie: Excellent
When I traveled the country, I would text him photos of me with Turning Point Faith representatives that I would meet across the nation. He was so proud of them.
Sometimes I would simply meet a young follower of his. text June 2, 2024 Bill: Just spoke in Eugene, Oregon, and a young leader, Maverick, is greatly inspired by you.
Charlie: That’s awesome! Go Ducks!
text July 8, 2024 Bill: Charlie - We love your new book Right Wing Revolution.
Charlie: Wow! Thank you!
As busy as Charlie was, meeting with President Trump, Vice-President Vance, and nearly every major conservative political, media, and religious leaders, he would take time to text me a Bible verse, to which I would give a thumbs up or text one back. |
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